{"id":105764,"date":"2021-07-23T19:03:00","date_gmt":"2021-07-24T00:03:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.dacgroup.com\/podcast-rewind-5-insights-from-bjorns-brilliant-b2b-blueprint\/"},"modified":"2025-01-03T04:43:35","modified_gmt":"2025-01-03T09:43:35","slug":"podcast-rewind-5-insights-from-bjorns-brilliant-b2b-blueprint","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.dacgroup.com\/en-gb\/insights\/blog\/strategy\/podcast-rewind-5-insights-from-bjorns-brilliant-b2b-blueprint\/","title":{"rendered":"Podcast rewind: 5 insights from Bj\u00f6rn\u2019s brilliant B2B blueprint"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Marketers have long joked that B2B really stands for &#8220;boring to boring&#8221;. But does that gag still ring true in 2021? Haven&#8217;t business-to-business frameworks evolved since the dawn of the digital age? Is B2B <em>really<\/em> less interesting than its consumer equivalent? Well, there&#8217;s nobody better to quiz on the topic than Bj\u00f6rn Radde.<\/p>\n<p>Bj\u00f6rn is Head of Digital Marketing at <a href=\"https:\/\/www.t-systems.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">T-Systems International<\/a>, Deutsche Telekom&#8217;s B2B division and sister brand to T-Mobile. With 28,000 employees and countless customers across Europe, Asia, and North America, T-Systems is a true B2B heavyweight\u2014putting Bj\u00f6rn in the perfect position to dispel myths, reveal truths, and share his unique perspective on B2C&#8217;s less glamorous cousin.<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>\n<h2>B2B is the most difficult form of marketing<\/h2>\n<p>Having proven his worth in both consumer- and business-facing marketing roles, Bj\u00f6rn believes B2B is the more challenging arena due to the fact that it generally has much longer decision cycles, more complex nurturing streams, and many more people to engage for a single sale.<\/p>\n<p>Take the typical B2C example of booking a hotel room or buying running shoes. The transaction itself is simple, and opportunities to cross-sell follow naturally (&#8220;Buying trainers? You might be interested in this running vest!&#8221;). In contrast, a multi-million dollar tech investment can&#8217;t be so easily parlayed into follow-up transactions (&#8220;You bought cloud computing from us, so why not IOT as well?&#8221;).<\/p>\n<p>Selling to technologists, of course, comes with its own set of challenges (naming no names&#8230; Dan). They&#8217;re subjected to countless cold emails, creating an environment of noise, irrelevance, and hard-nosed solicitation. Timing, too, is crucial: ideally, an organisation would be coming towards the end of an existing contract, feeling the need for a specific service or product. Mix in the personal preferences and triggers of the actual human beings making the decisions and you have a heady brew of opportunity, risk, and happenstance. In other words, B2B ain&#8217;t easy.<\/li>\n<li>\n<h2>What is B2B&#8217;s single biggest challenge?<\/h2>\n<p>Yes, B2B has traditionally been considered a relatively dry discipline that usually lags behind B2C in various ways. Even so, the people involved are, well, people. Although B2B transactions are often on a far grander scale than B2C, they nevertheless have to target and engage individuals\u2014not broad corporate entities\u2014to gain traction.<\/p>\n<p>Bj\u00f6rn cites ServiceNow&#8217;s Christmas adverts as a great example of B2C-style marketing (Santa can&#8217;t meet Christmas demand until the elves discover ServiceNow&#8217;s workflow solutions), as well as a recent Amazon Web Services (AWS) campaign that showed the extent to which AWS services power everyday conveniences that inspire wonder in a child.<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"YouTube video player\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/eqQRokPX654\" width=\"612\" height=\"344\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"YouTube video player\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/7u_00Wn_oSE\" width=\"612\" height=\"344\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>Of course, the idea that B2B buyers are also B2C buyers works both ways, with the last best experience\u2014whether it&#8217;s personal or for business\u2014becoming the new benchmark. If you trust Amazon with a $10 personal purchase, a positive experience might make you more inclined to consider Amazon for professional purposes. A poor experience, however, might just persuade you to look elsewhere when it comes to that $10 million, career-critical B2B deal.<\/li>\n<li>\n<h2>CRM in B2B<\/h2>\n<p>Knowing that B2B transactions generally come with long decision cycles and an inordinate number of stakeholders, how do you interpret your data to build accurate customer profiles? Later on, how do you prove the impact of your marketing efforts?<\/p>\n<p>Unsurprisingly, <a href=\"\/en-gb\/services\/customer-relationship-management\/\">customer relationship management (CRM)<\/a> is a different beast in the world of corporate sales. In B2C, you can effectively track customers from a first click or visit, all the way through to purchase, then retarget as appropriate. It&#8217;s effortlessly easy to measure B2C success (&#8220;We sold 1 million shoes due to this banner&#8221;), but B2B deals often lack a tangible connection between sales and marketing. You may know the deal and revenue, but you don&#8217;t always know the trigger on marketing side.<\/p>\n<p>T-Systems&#8217; solution? Attempt to reverse engineer the sales funnel. 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Just think how many B2B sales cycles require some form of registration (&#8220;Download this white paper!&#8221;) to generate first-party identifiers. With a goal to build complex organisational personas rather than individual ones, B2B marketers simply have to stitch together various first-party signals from their existing data. In that sense, they may be much better prepared than their peers in B2C.<\/li>\n<li>\n<h2>How marketing insights affect B2B mindsets<\/h2>\n<p>B2B marketers increasingly have to meet prospects where they are: social media. It&#8217;s an easy enough ask for start-ups, but engaging prospects one-on-one via social is a foreign concept for many long-established organisations. 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